oldwilmington_nostalgia_archive

Visitors Nostalgia & Memories

(Archive #16: April 1, 2005 to April 30, 2005 entries)

The last part of the question about the black and white picture was: We saw it the other day and it had "I'm Back" printed on the bottom. ????
Patty <pattywerk@aol.com>
Wilmington, DE USA - Saturday, April 30, 2005 at 14:57:49 (EDT)

Does anyone know who or what this is? Anywhere you go, you might see a small black & white poster/picture of a guy's face & head that's been put on telephone poles, stop signs, etc. Looks like a young guy, with black hair & mustache, and he has a barcode in the middle of his forehead. We've seen this on and off for years, & just saw it the other day with
Patty <pattywerk@aol.com>
wilmington, de USA - Saturday, April 30, 2005 at 14:55:48 (EDT)

I never could style my hair in a DA. The hair pomade (really was pure grease) did nothing for me. Due to my Italian heritage, my hair was already greasy and was naturally curly. But that was OK, some girls liked my type as well. And after all, it was all done to attract the girls, wasn't it? The flattop haircut quickly replaced the DA anyway. I struck out there as well.
Ray Zelano <Rzelano@aol.com>
New Castle, Delaware USA - Saturday, April 30, 2005 at 13:32:14 (EDT)

I graduated from Corpus Christi in 1962. The principal then was Sr. Jeanne Bernadine. The pastor was Fr. McGee with Fr. Peterman and Fr. Harney. Some kids in my Corpus Christi graduating class were Bobby Mazzio, Wayne Malish, Tom Haliday, John Thompson, Charlie Van Kerkoven, Tommy Czkowski, Cordy Dombrowski, Rosita Michael, Christine Socorso, Nicolene DiFrancesca, Silvana Volpe, Cecilia Sorce, Marilyn Ferry, Joey Leonetti, Jerry Snow, Chris Weaver, Chip Smit, Franny Bialkowski, the Suchocki cousins, Tommy DiLeonardo, Herman Walls, Joanne Carlo, Linda Slutter, Antonio Grabowski, Nancy Fernandez etc. In 2nd and 3rd grade at Corpus Christi in the mid 1950s we often had split classes totaling almost 100 kids.
Larry Roszkowiak (Rush) <lroszkowiak@its.ucsf.edu>
San Francisco, CA USA - Friday, April 29, 2005 at 11:47:05 (EDT)

Patty, I well remember the D.A. haircut (and what the letters D.A. mean). I always had a D.A., and wore the peg pants like Ray speaks of, usually black with a pink stripe, and the Flagg Fliers. Also wore my shirt with the collar up in the back, and a black leather jacket. And I remember using the cuff of my jeans as a receptacle for my cigarette ashes.
Bruce D. <spyderxlatcomcast.net>
Wilmington, DE USA - Friday, April 29, 2005 at 09:37:03 (EDT)

I found this great site that shows 50's clothing, slang, etc. And yes, there are pictures of poodle skirts and the D.A. Enjoy! http://www.fiftiesweb.com/fashion/ducktail.htm
Patty <Patricia L. Werkheiser>
Wilmington, DE USA - Friday, April 29, 2005 at 06:53:55 (EDT)

Bruce - we wore the poodle skirts in the 50's too. But don't laugh too hard yet - remember the guy's "D.A." hair style & the grease it took to keep it in place? THAT was funny! : )
Patty <pattywerk@aol.com>
Wilmington, DE USA - Friday, April 29, 2005 at 06:24:45 (EDT)

Hi anyone here from Corpus Christi grade or high school and oak Grove. Remember the block parties in the summer. They were so cool. I knew a lot of kids from different areas. My Dad had an Insurance Agency on Wilmington Ave. Hope someone sees this and responds\ Sandy
Sandy Claypoole Woolfall <AnneMary47@aol.com>
Elsmere, De USA - Thursday, April 28, 2005 at 23:54:09 (EDT)

RE--Merchandise Mart. I remember one of the nicest things about the Merchandise Mart---No more parallel parking. This was what I disliked about shopping Down Town Wilmington.
K Burton <breckslnkid10@yahoo.com>
Pike Creek, De. USA - Thursday, April 28, 2005 at 23:00:41 (EDT)

I don't remember socks with clocks either, but in the early 60's, I remember the "Poodle Skirts" that the girls wore, haha.
Bruce D. <spyderxlatcomcast.net>
Wilmington, DE USA - Thursday, April 28, 2005 at 20:11:24 (EDT)

F.M., I'm sorry I don't remember The Cotton Shop. The Mart opened in 1954, I believe, and the stores I listed in my earlier note were from a list I have of the stores in the mid to late 60's, so The Cotton Shop was probably there earlier than the ones I mentioned.
Bruce D. <spyderxlatcomcast.net>
Wilmington, DE USA - Thursday, April 28, 2005 at 20:09:57 (EDT)

Many of you were remembering the stores at the "Merchandise Mart". Do any of you remember "The Cotton Shop"? It was a small dress shop, but they had beautiful clothes.
F. M. Smith <FloMed@comcast.net>
Wilmington, DE USA - Thursday, April 28, 2005 at 19:04:35 (EDT)

Got of Wimington High School in 1957 never heard of Clocks and socks.
Ed Begley <epangels_2002@yahhoo.com>
Santa Fe, Tx USA - Thursday, April 28, 2005 at 19:00:39 (EDT)

I don't remember Socks with Clocks in the 1950's as a teenage thing, but I do remember that my late father, in the 1940's, dressed in a suit, white shirt with tie, fedora or homburg, and highly-polished wing-tips for business every work day (Dupont in those days had as rigid a dress code for its office workers as did IBM). He also wore what I think were almost sheer silk or nylon socks with no elastic, and which usually featured a clock design woven into the fabric. How did they stay up? With leg garters, of course. Except perhaps for Mansure and Prettyman (are they still in business?), I can't imagine anywhere in Wilmington or all of Delaware where you can still buy a pair of men's leg garters. They were the cat's meow!!!!
Bob Wilson <wilso127@yahoo.com>
Stamford, CT USA - Wednesday, April 27, 2005 at 12:08:55 (EDT)

I broke out of Mt. Pleasant H. S. in 1954, Mary Kay. Sorry, I don't/didn't know a George Dunlop.
Bill Fisher <whfisher@earthlink.net>
Westminster, CA USA - Tuesday, April 26, 2005 at 10:12:57 (EDT)

THIS IS FOR BILL FISHER: WHAT HIGH SCHOOL DID YOU GRADUATE FROM? IF IT WAS WHS, DO YOU REMEMBER A GEORGE DUNLOP FROM THE 40 ACRES?
MARY KAY DUNLOP KENNEDY <MK.KENNEDY@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
OTTAWA, IL USA - Tuesday, April 26, 2005 at 09:26:56 (EDT)

Guess I missed something in my youth; I graduated from high school in 1954, but have never heard of "socks with clocks". what the heck are they, Larry?
Bill Fisher <whfisher@earthlink.net>
Westminster, CA USA - Monday, April 25, 2005 at 22:11:18 (EDT)

No 1950s male ensemble would be complete without -- socks with clocks.
Larry Roszkowiak (Rush) <lroszkowiak@its.ucsf.edu>
San Francisco, CA USA - Monday, April 25, 2005 at 17:33:19 (EDT)

I'm one of the ones who has been very quiet lately. There have been lots of health problems with myself and my family. None of them are resolved, but at least I feel like I can rejoin the discussions. I had a pair of those Flag Fliers in my teenage years in the 50s. They were coupled with pegged pants, cuffless and very tight at the ankles. There was usually a stripe up the side in a contrasting color. We shamelessly wore those pants. That was just before the penny loafer's, with white socks, and jeans with the cuffs rolled up which could be used for an ashtray if you were inside. The more muscled guys wore white T-shirts with their Lucky strikes rolled up in the sleeves. Mine were carefully hidden in my pocket. We also wore saddle shoes in that era, with the red heel and sole.
Ray Zelano <Rzelano@aol.com>
New Castle, Delaware USA - Monday, April 25, 2005 at 17:26:46 (EDT)

Re the Merchandise Mart, another store was Poole's and the Mart Record Shop.
Bud <bu49@poolesite.com>
Wilm, DE USA - Monday, April 25, 2005 at 15:56:36 (EDT)

Strawbridges is now at the Concord Mall. Mullins maintained their Wilmington store when they opened a branch at the Mart. Some other stores that were at the Mart were: Acme Supermarket, Carosel Gifts, Tom's Photo Shop, Storms Shoes, Yardstick Decorators, Leroys Style Shop, J.C. Penney (at Prices Corner now), Montgomery Ward, Woolworth 5 & 10, Murray's Menswear, Silverman's Bridal Shop, Sunray Drugs, and the Fashion Outlet. Was the store that became the Fashion Outlet once Pomeroy's? Can't remember. Some smaller stores that were there at one time or another were: Delaware Beauty Shop, Green's Sandwich Shop, Dess Discount, House Of Books, Fabric Shop, Oven Door Bakery, Parkway Cleaners, Asam Wallpaper. And, after Horn & Hardart, the Edgemoor Branch of the Post Office was in that building for a few years.
Bruce D. <spyderxatcomcast.net>
Wilmington, DE USA - Monday, April 25, 2005 at 15:44:38 (EDT)

Bob, there was Horn and Hardarts, Braunsteins, 2 Strawbridge stores one was a budget store, liquor store, barber shop, Eckerds, toy store, Bank of Delaware, and now my mind has gone blank.
Harry Brand <salliesbrand@aol.com>
Wilmington, De USA - Monday, April 25, 2005 at 15:28:46 (EDT)

Every time I am on a train that goes by the ghostly and barren remains of the Merchandise Mart, I remember when it was developed, and when it was in its heyday in the 1950's. But my memories of the establishments that were doing business there at the time, beyond Strawbridge & Clothier and Mullin's Men's Store, is vague, at best. What were the other stores that were there? Like Mullin's, did most of them close their operations on Market Street before moving up to Edgemoor? And did any others survive to this day by eventually moving up to the newer Malls out on the Concord Pike?
Bob Wilson <wilso127@yahoo.com>
Stamford, CT USA - Monday, April 25, 2005 at 15:10:08 (EDT)

Connie, the large department store in the Merchandise Mart was Strawbridge & Clothier.
Bruce D. <spyderxlatcomcast.net>
Wilmington, DE USA - Monday, April 25, 2005 at 11:45:00 (EDT)

Both my mother and I have the distinction of having worked in a store on Market Street. In the 1950s Mom worked in the Woolworth's on the west side of Market (Market St. had two Woolworth's). In 1971 I worked at Braunstein's. It was always interesting watching downtown Wilmington wake up. Gnarly with butts in the gutters.
Larry Roszkowiak (Rush) <lroszkowiak@its.ucsf.edu>
San Francisco, CA USA - Monday, April 25, 2005 at 11:30:13 (EDT)

Re THE STYLE SHOP - LeRoy's Style Shop was on the even side of Market between 8th and 9th Streets between the years 1956 and 1967. I don't know about before or after those years. They also had a shop in the Merchandise Mart on the Governor Printz just across from the large department store. I forget the name of the department store. It was a Wanamaker's type establishment.
Connie <nospamwantedatyahoo.com>
Wilmington, De USA - Monday, April 25, 2005 at 09:50:32 (EDT)

Lists of Market Street store addresses for the years 1948 and 1961 can be found by clicking the "Historical Data" link on the left side-bar of the home page. According to those lists, Adam’s Clothes was at no. 716 Market St. in both years; also, Father & Son Shoes at no. 404. York Store was at no. 821 in 1961. In 1948 The Style Shop occupied that location. Flagg Brothers Shoes was at no. 833 in 1961. It’s fun scanning down the lists and remembering all those great old stores.
Tom Wood <twood@hoflink.com>
Albertson, NY USA - Sunday, April 24, 2005 at 15:41:49 (EDT)

And what about Adams Clothes for men (young men). I remember they were the first to trust me and give me a charge account when I was just out of high school at the ripe old age of 17. I think they too were between 8th and 9th on Market. Then there was Father & Son shoe store my personal favorite. Further up and closer to 9th were the nutty yet trendy, stylish Flagg Brothers and their infamous Flagg Flyers. For those of you too young to remember, the tounge of the shoe flipped in a forward motion down two metal rods which separated somewhat like a zipper. You then put your foot into the open shoe and reversed the procedure closing the flap which slid up the metal rod and tightened the (zipper like affair)and the shoe onto your foot. Ah for the good old days of Market St where you could shop and cruise at the same time, similar to Newark today, but without the hassle.
Wayne <twntydasys@aol.com>
New Castle, De USA - Sunday, April 24, 2005 at 08:50:49 (EDT)

I haven't seen York's mentioned. It was a ladie's clothing store on Market between 8th and 9th. Late 50's and early 60's
maureen <mopug@webtv.net>
bear, de USA - Saturday, April 23, 2005 at 23:07:56 (EDT)

Ann, I sure do remember your dads barber shop, and your family very well, was good friends with your sister shelia and just saw your brother at St. Ann 8th grade reunion.
Jean <usa.com>
Wilmington, De. USA - Friday, April 22, 2005 at 21:50:55 (EDT)

Our Mom once won a case of Frostie Root Beer in an AM radio call-in contest. We had to pick it up at the distribution plant up near 202. Frostie Root Beer in painted bottles. That was a great case of root beer.
Larry Roszkowiak <lroszkowiak@its.ucsf.edu>
San Francisco, CA USA - Friday, April 22, 2005 at 12:17:39 (EDT)

Pat, that still is the complete name of the nursing home, and it's still there.
Bruce <spyderxlatcomcast.net>
Wilmington, DE USA - Friday, April 22, 2005 at 10:21:36 (EDT)

John, Could that have been Mom's Old Fashioned Root Beer? I remember Mom's root beer in the early 50's. There also was a Dad's Old Fashioned Root Beer; I don't know which came first, or if they were put out by the same distributor or competitors, but I liked Dad's Old Fashioned better.
Bruce D. <spyderxlatcomcast.net>
Wilmington, DE USA - Friday, April 22, 2005 at 10:19:41 (EDT)

Re the Kentmere Nursing Home: Years ago, it was called "The Home Of The Merciful Rest". I always loved that name.
Pat LeVan <LeVan1706@aol.com>
Port St. Lucie, FL USA - Friday, April 22, 2005 at 10:19:07 (EDT)

Question: Does anyone remember the Ma's Rootbeer that was sold by the gallon, glass jug. I reviewed this web site and I did not see any mention of it. I know that it was sold at an ice cream stand on Basin Road, Route 141. Either the one by Chelsea Estates or the one by Gordy Estates. My father would gather the kids and drive us in his 55 Chevy Station Wagon to purchase a gallon. This would have been in the late fifties.
John <jhaug@udel.edu>
Wilmington, DE USA - Friday, April 22, 2005 at 08:51:57 (EDT)

Do y'all remember the bread man who carried his basket full of great things(ie donuts,pies,sweet rolls.)Rice's and Bond Bread had great donuts.
Ed Begley <epangels_2002@yahoo.com>
Santa Fe, Tx USA - Thursday, April 21, 2005 at 22:52:01 (EDT)

My father (Bill Boyle) had a barber shop on Lincoln Street - between Delaware Ave. and Gilpin Ave. Anyone who lived in the Forty Acres in the forties or fifties will remember this.
Ann Splane <absplane@comcast.net>
West Chester, PA USA - Thursday, April 21, 2005 at 12:32:09 (EDT)

Ooops! That message about Kentmere was for BOB Wilson. Sorry about that.
Jo Ann <crossan33@aol.com>
Pike Creek Valley, DE USA - Thursday, April 21, 2005 at 10:09:19 (EDT)

BILL.W: I believe that area around Lovering Avenue may still be known as Kentmere. There's a nursing home nearby, under the name of Kentmere.
Jo Ann <crossan33@aol.com>
Pike Creek Valley, DE USA - Wednesday, April 20, 2005 at 18:01:06 (EDT)

BOB WILSON - that neighborhood might be Kentmore Park. You can buy an ADC map of New Castle County, Delaware. That neighborhood is on page 7 grids D5 & D6.
Connie <nospamwantedatyahoo.com>
Wilmington, De USA - Wednesday, April 20, 2005 at 09:19:18 (EDT)

Question: Is there a popular name for that neighborhood of short winding streets that is centered north of Lovering Avenue and is built up on the South Bank of the Brandywine just west of the Augustine Cutoff? Last time I was at Galucchio's, I got lost back in that area, where I had never driven before. Although it was nighttime, it looked to me like the homes there were quite elegant.
Bob Wilson <wilso127@yahoo.com>
Stamford, CT USA - Wednesday, April 20, 2005 at 07:32:04 (EDT)

I must be missing something, I thought Wawasette was out by Greenhill Ave and ran parrallel to Adams St. There must have been two miles between them. The only pool I knew of around Adams Street was in Tenth St. park at 10th and Jackson. I remember they put a pool in the park at 3rd and Monroe sometime in the 50s after I had graduated from school at MCI Williams.(53) To all the people who talked about living there:(around 2nd/3rd & Madison,)I knew a guy who's name was Pianowski who lived in the two hundred block. He had contracted polio as a kid . My Mother worked with his sister Emily, I think his name was Joe. He walked everywhere, as if he had never been stricken although his limp assured you that he had been. Anyone of you who lived there probably remember seeing him I'm sure. Wayne
Wayne But;ler <twntydasys@aol.com>
New Castle, DE` USA - Tuesday, April 19, 2005 at 21:03:39 (EDT)

Hannah thats where I learned to swim
bill rogers <brogers@delanet.com>
PIKE CREEK, de USA - Tuesday, April 19, 2005 at 20:10:54 (EDT)

Liz I lived between seventh and eighth on Madison and played at the playground many times
bill rogers <brogers@delanet.com>
PIKE CREEK, DE USA - Tuesday, April 19, 2005 at 20:07:12 (EDT)

Ref "the Bathhouse" at Wawasette & Adams.. it was a small pool and had different days for boys and girls.
Sam Ciroalo <samciroalo@comcast.net>
Bonita Springs, FL USA - Monday, April 18, 2005 at 19:50:30 (EDT)

Remember the 1st Brandywine Atrs Festival with the "Ox Roast" where they roasted a steer on a spit over and open fire, down in Josephine Gardens, by the Brandywine River.It was quite a day, and the first of many great Arts Festivals to be held there. I am very interested in getting copies of any news paper stories or any photos of the "Ox Roast"
mike mullins <mpmul@frontiernet.net>
wallkill, ny USA - Monday, April 18, 2005 at 17:20:13 (EDT)

Anyone reading this recall, or witness, the events at Victoria's Luncheonette? I was a boy in the 1950s but read about it in the News Journal and heard about it on the radio.
Larry Roszkowiak (Rush) <lroszkowiak@its.ucsf.edu>
San Francisco, CA USA - Monday, April 18, 2005 at 12:03:36 (EDT)

Does anyone remember the neighborhood pool at Wawasett and Adams, it was just called the "bathhouse".
hannah <hwalraven1@juno.com>
wilmington, delaware USA - Saturday, April 16, 2005 at 10:58:01 (EDT)

Hey, anybody from North Wilmington (or anywhere in the area, for that matter) who ever cruised Brandywine Blvd. in Bellefonte, here's your chance to relive those golden days -- my good buddy Jim Boulanger has been putting on a "Bellefonte Reunion" for the past few years, and they're getting better and better. Even if you're not from the Bellefonte area, you're welcome to come and meet the folks from there. It'll be held on April 30th, starting at 1:30. See Jim's website for more info: www.BellefonteReunion.com - it tells the story far better than I can. Also see his posting in "that other message board" on this website. (grin)
Bill Fisher <whfisher@earthlink.net>
Westminster, CA USA - Wednesday, April 13, 2005 at 23:54:59 (EDT)

Hi Liz, I was raised on second in madison. I remember playing at third & madison street park. I think it was named warner park named after the lady who ran the park miss Warner. I played at the park in the late fifties. I lived on second st. between madison and monroe. The front of my house faced the back of the country girl diner.
RAY ORSETTI <stingray1949@comcast.net>
wilm, de USA - Wednesday, April 13, 2005 at 23:10:49 (EDT)

Hey ,Liz i was raised at 4th and Monoroe.Played there a lot.Do you remember the ice hous on Fourth St and the Blue Hen dinner(loved their pumkin pie.)Do you also remenber the drug store's one on madison street and the other on fourth.You could also throw a stone from one to the other.
Ed begley <epangels_2002@yahoo.com>
Santa Fe, Tx USA - Wednesday, April 13, 2005 at 20:25:37 (EDT)

does anyone remember the playground at 3rd and Madison, swings, sandboxes and small wading pool?
liz <friends of wilm53@aol.com>
Hartly, De USA - Wednesday, April 13, 2005 at 19:10:58 (EDT)

who remembers the Madison Street Park at about 3rd and Madison, swings, sandbox and small wading pool
liz <friendsofwilm53@aol.com>
hartly, de USA - Wednesday, April 13, 2005 at 19:08:21 (EDT)

Univ and Whist web address http://www.universityandwhistclub.com/
Sean <ekn64@aol.com>
Wilmington, De USA - Wednesday, April 13, 2005 at 16:44:37 (EDT)

The univ and whist club has a website. It gives lots of background regarding the two clubs that merged. The site also has pics and bacground for the estate itself. As to the neighbourhood. It's solid. Great shape. Walk thru there all the time with my dog. Day and night.
Sean Kirkpatrick <ekn64@aol.com>
Wilm, De USA - Wednesday, April 13, 2005 at 12:29:06 (EDT)

The Kozy Korner was "the place" to go after Sallies' basketball and football games in the 50's. The place was mobbed with all the fans who would cheer when the players walked in. I am sure the place didn't make any money on us because all we ever ordered were cokes. I remember one girl's mother who wouldn't let her go there because she heard they slipped aspirin into girls' cokes which would make them drunk!
Pat LeVan <LeVan1706@aol.com>
Port St. Lucie, FL USA - Wednesday, April 13, 2005 at 11:10:17 (EDT)

My mother lived on N. Rodney Street between Lovering and Shallcross from 1932 until she got married in 1940. She told me she used to walk to work at the DuPont Building and would stop in at Kozy Korner on her way to work. By the way she said she walked in high heels. She was in the first class to graduated from P.S DuPont and she said she walked to school. She is close to her old address now, residing at Kentmere Nursing Home.
Richard A. Grayson <randjgrayson@hotmail.com>
Wilmington, DE USA - Wednesday, April 13, 2005 at 10:30:40 (EDT)

Regarding the Kozy Korner, the son and grandson of the original owner have opened a KOZY KORNER on Union Street. They even have a few photos on the walll of the original. I'm sure they'd love to hear your story about meeting your wife there. Stop by and visit them. Nick Vouras is the father, John (named after the grandfather) is the son. It's a pretty busy breakfast and lunch hangout, so if you want to talk, go late morning or after lunch. IT's not as big as the original, but the food is similar!
Michael Klezaras <theklez@hotmail.com>
New Castle, DE USA - Wednesday, April 13, 2005 at 07:11:53 (EDT)

How many people remember the original kozy korner down on delaware avenue and washington street. I use to have alot of good times down there. I would like to hear more stories about the kozy korner since that is where i met my wife 50 years ago. THANKS AND LOOK FORWARD READING YOUR MEMORIES OF THE OLD KOZY KORNER. jblackened@hotmail.com
johnn blackened <jblackened@hotmail.com>
wilmington, de USA - Tuesday, April 12, 2005 at 23:28:04 (EDT)

Bruce's notation about Camp Barnes reminded me of my six years at Camp Arrowhead from 1948-53. This was before the Episcopal Diocese took it over. Colonel Ralph Sasse, who was a former West Point football coach,ran the camp, which featured a salt water swimming pool (water came from the Rehoboth Bay) horsebackriding, riflery, archery, boxing, crafts, hiking, folk/indian lore plus the usual summer sports. Sanford Secor was the Head Counselor and there were nine cabins housing boys 8-14. They also had such events as Capture the Flag and the Badger Hunt. There were a number of Wilmington guys there, far too numerous to mention but I just wondered if anyone else out there can share some memories of the Old Camp Arrowhead.
butch schilling <fschillling@isacclaims.com>
mount pleasant, sc USA - Tuesday, April 12, 2005 at 16:10:36 (EDT)

Fact: the site of the University and Whist Club was once considered as the site for our nation's capital building when Wilmington was in the running to be our nation's capitol. The reason: it was the only location in the original 13 where you could "see" 4 states. DE, PA, NJ, and MD. While it still is a private club, anyone can now rent its rooms for an event. Since the tightening of the "entertainment" loophole tax deductions of the mid 1980s, membership has dropped and there is no longer a waiting list to join. They still have the BEST Napoleon's I've ever taseted!!!
Michael Klezaras <theklez@hotmail.com>
New Castle, DE USA - Monday, April 11, 2005 at 19:12:05 (EDT)

My rusty trusty slow old brain just came up with the name of the private club on Market, between 11th & 12th; it is/was the WILMINGTON CLUB. Such an odd name, it took me a while to think of it. **YIKES**
Bruce D. <spyderxlatcomcast.net>
Wilmington, DE USA - Monday, April 11, 2005 at 14:48:34 (EDT)

I also spent a week at Camp Barnes in the early 50's. It was a great camp, and I had a great time there. It was run by a police association, I don't remember which one, DAP, FOP, PAL, whomever, though I don't think PAL was formed that far back.
Bruce D. <spyderxlatcomcast.net>
Wilmington, DE USA - Monday, April 11, 2005 at 14:43:41 (EDT)

I'm wrong on the location of the Univ. & Whist Club, it's location is 805 N. Broom St., and is still there, as Chip says. So, what is/was the private club on Market, in the large, stately building between 11th and 12th Sts.?
Bruce D. <spyderxlatcomcast.net>
Wilmington, DE USA - Monday, April 11, 2005 at 14:38:26 (EDT)

Regarding the University and Whist Club... I was taken there for dinner a couple of weeks ago, and attended a wedding there in 2002. It is absolutely still there, and I think it's a great building. Whether or not the neighborhood has deteriorated is hard for me to say (32 y.o.), but it looks extraordinarily better than some of the rest of Wilmington. I really like the distinctiveness of the homes in the immediate area. My impression of this neighborhood is that it must have been a wealthy one (and probably still is). Is that correct?
Chip <ctwatkins3@yahoo.com>
Newark, DE USA - Monday, April 11, 2005 at 13:57:02 (EDT)

I SPENT A WEEK AT CAMP BARNES IN 1954 OR 55. MY COUSIN WAS ELMER ELWOOD. A POLICE OFFICER IN WILM. AT THE THAT TIME AND HE GOT ME INVITED.IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST TIMES OF MY CHILDHOOD. GREAT CAMP AND COUNSELORS.
charlie walraven <hwalraven1@juno.com>
wilmington, Delaware USA - Monday, April 11, 2005 at 13:47:11 (EDT)

How about Price's Run Park? Is the swimming pool still there, tennis courts, ball fields, etc.?
Pat LeVan <LeVan1706@aol.com>
Port St. Lucie, FL USA - Monday, April 11, 2005 at 13:39:34 (EDT)

Camp Barnes is just south of Bethany Beach, Delaware adjacent to Assawoman State Park.
SpeederMurdoch <speedermurdoch@comcast.net>
Wilmington, De USA - Monday, April 11, 2005 at 13:34:33 (EDT)

Quickly, Bob: Cool Spring Park is still open to all residents, the park/reservoir that has the fence around it now is the one at 8th, 9th, Rodney & Clayton, near St. Francis Hosp. What was the club on Market, between 11th & 12th, next to 1st & Central Church (?), my boogled mind thought that was the Univ. & Whist Club? And, there is still a Mealey's Funeral Home in Wilmington, I think - don't know about how the relations line-up with the current ownership. In the phone book, Mealey's (downtown) is listed at 703 N. Broom St. (Michael A. Mealey & Son is listed as the director. Ok, I've done enough damage today, outta here.....
Bruce D. <spyderxlatcomcast.net>
Wilmington, DE USA - Monday, April 11, 2005 at 12:54:10 (EDT)

Yes, Mealey's is still in the same place they have however branched out to the suburbs. They have a large place on Limestone Road. I went to Sallies with Mike Mealey and graduated in '52. Mike has since died and the business is now run by Chick Mealey. I lived down the street from there for a short period at 4th and Broom. Kreinen's was at the corner of 4th and Broom also and they are now in New Castle and Elsmere.
Harry Brand <salliesbrand@aol.com>
Wilmington, De USA - Monday, April 11, 2005 at 12:51:08 (EDT)

Just wondering.........back in the late 1950's, I remember going to a wedding reception at a place called The Whist Club up near Cool Spring Park and not too far from Mealey's Funeral Home. I also attended a fraternity reunion at the Whist Club (an elegant old place, if I recall correctly) in the late 1960's. Back then, this was in a fine neighborhood. Does the Club, or it's building, still exist? I would think that the neighborhood has deteriorated somewhat since back then, if the Park itself has been fenced off to the public. ??????? And does any one remember Mealey's? They had a lock on the funeral business for Wilmington families of Irish descent back in those days. One of my close friends in college was Jack Mealey (Sallies, 1951), who when I last heard from him, was living in semi-retirement up in Valley Forge, having spent a career in the regular U. S. Army, and having retired as a bird colonel 10 years or so ago. Once out of college, Jack withdrew himself from inheriting and running the family business, and chose an Army career instead.
Bob Wilson <wilso127@yahoo.com>
Stamford, CT USA - Monday, April 11, 2005 at 10:24:30 (EDT)

Wayne...The FOP you refer to is actually the location for the DAP, a hangout for the local police. It's still there, a hop, skip and jump away from the house I mentioned on the corner of Lancaster and Bancroft Parkway. I used to go there many times for dances, beef and beers, wedding receptions, etc. We were introduced to this place, courtesy of my buddies, Bill Jr, Bob and Len Fischer, whose dad, Bill Sr., was a Wilmington police officer for many years.
Bruce Esdale <bruce.esdale@basell.com>
Newark, DE USA - Monday, April 11, 2005 at 06:38:56 (EDT)

Wasn't Camp Barnes for the PAL kids? I forget where it was located. Does anyone remember Bond Bread on Vandever Avenue? Or Diamond Ice & Coal Company at Vandever Avenue and Jessup Streets? There was also a bowling alley near Vandever Avenue & Carter Street, not automated like today. Pin Boys set up the pins you knocked down. Wiltex Company was across the street. Those were the good old days.... Shirl
Shirley Hudson Jester <ujest110@aol.com>
Newark, DE USA - Sunday, April 10, 2005 at 21:34:24 (EDT)

And Rice's "Peter Wheat" bread......
Bruce D. <spyderxlatcomcast.net>
Wilmington, DE USA - Sunday, April 10, 2005 at 15:27:40 (EDT)

I sure remember Rice's Applesauce Ring Cake... to die for!!
Bill Fisher <whfisher@earthlink.net>
Westminster, CA USA - Sunday, April 10, 2005 at 14:57:46 (EDT)

Does anyone remember Camp Barnes and Rice's Bakery.
ed begley <Epangels_2002@yahoo.com>
Santa Fe, Tx USA - Sunday, April 10, 2005 at 12:58:50 (EDT)

yes we do still have "lightning" bugs here in wilmington, although not as numerous as in the 60's and 70's when my age group used to catch ' em ( i was born in 1956 ....same year as rock n roll hehehehe....) it's not surprising the couple from scotland weren't familiar with them, i read an article some years ago that said the bugs were extinct in england because of so many years of the males trying to make "whoopie" with the street lights and they were getting zapped! .... i'm afraid that may be happening here too.....
muggs mcginnis <themuggz@aol.com>
wilmington, de USA - Sunday, April 10, 2005 at 12:47:00 (EDT)

The bar on the corner of Union St. and Lancaster Ave. was owned by Neil Blair, but the name was Deputy's Tavern.
Jack Riley <jckril@comcast.net>
Wilmington, DE USA - Saturday, April 09, 2005 at 18:51:13 (EDT)

I FORGOT TO ADD THAT A PENN/JERSEY AUTO STORE WAS UP FROM NEAL BLAIRS BAR
JPASQUALE <JNPASQUALE@COMCAST.NET>
WILMINGTON, DE USA - Saturday, April 09, 2005 at 17:56:09 (EDT)

BRUCE......I BELIEVE THAT THE BAR THAT YOU MEANT WAS NEAL BLAIR'S...IT WAS AT LANCASTER AVE. & UNION STREET....LATER ON HE MOVED BETWEEN UNION & TULIP ST.
JPASQUALE <JNPASQUALE@COMCAST.NET>
WILMINGTON, DE USA - Friday, April 08, 2005 at 17:17:25 (EDT)

WAYNE , YOU MIGHT HAVE THE RIGHT IDEA .,WE COULD HAVE USED YOU ON THE W.P.D. BUT IT IS SAD,THAT THE GOOD HONEST PEOPLE OF WILMINGTON ARE NOW DEPRIVED OF THERE PARK AND RESERVOIR.AND JUST THINK OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHILDREN THAT WONT EVER AGAIN ENJOY PLAYING THERE , SLEDDING DOWN THOSE BEAUTIFUL HILL,S . IF I WAS STILL LIVING IN DEL. I WOULD RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL AND MY MAIN THEME WOULD BE ---- MR. MAYOR , TEAR DOWN THAT FENCE. IF IT SOUNDS A LITTLE LIKE PREST. RON REAGAN----YOUR RIGHT ! !
RALPH PRYOR <REPJFK@AOL.COM>
TARPON SPRINGS, FL USA - Friday, April 08, 2005 at 17:00:17 (EDT)

The northwest corner of Bancroft Pkwy and Lancaster Ave. also had something to do with the FOP at one time. My brother-in-law took me there once while he was a city police officer. Probably sometime around the mid 60s. Wall to Wall cops. We shot a few games of pool had a cold one and left. I never went back, I thought you had to be FOP member or guest to enter.
Wayne <twntydasys@aol.com>
New Castle, de USA - Friday, April 08, 2005 at 15:19:37 (EDT)

Speaking of the White Eagle, was that the bar that had a fountain out in the front of it. There was a bar on fourth street down around there that had what seemed like a totally different theme or atmosphere about it on the outside. As I remember it sat back from the street further than the rest of the buildings (homes??) in that area and had a Spanish or Alamo look about it. I don't know why I made that association, maybe it was stucco or painted a strange color or because of the fountain out front but that's the way I remember it. Also down that way on the other side of fourth street was a cigar factor?? I belive I remember my family making reference to that, but don't remember anything but a couple of long factory like buildings being along there.
Wayne <twntydasys@aol.com>
new castle, de USA - Friday, April 08, 2005 at 15:11:57 (EDT)

Bruce Esdale: That was American Legion Post #1 at the northwest corner of Bancroft & Lancaster. It was sold to Zion Lutheran Church which had to move from their former location to make way for I-95. That was the Adams-Jackson freeway part of I-95 that devastated the heart of Wilmington. Fred
Fred Best <fred.best@usa.dupont.com>
Wilm, DE USA - Friday, April 08, 2005 at 09:47:31 (EDT)

In talking about beer halls, I remember my dad and his pals tossing back a few on the Union Street and Lancaster Avenue site (don't remember the name; anyone know?) which, much later, became the original Gerardo's Pizza. This site was directly across the street from the Post House Restaurant. A block down, on the same side of Union St., was Bill and Tony's Barber Shop cutting hair with their spiffy white barber shirts. I also remember a Memeorial Day festivity that occurred on the corner of Bancroft Parkway and Lancaster Avenue (It's now a church). Then, free lunches were served at an old Victorian home that had a large porch that extended around the front of the house. My dad, my uncle and my grandfather went down to the basement to celebrate the holiday with a few while my sisters, cousins and I played games with others on the big lawn. Anyone remember this house?
Bruce Esdale <bruce.esdale@basell.com>
Newark, DE USA - Friday, April 08, 2005 at 07:33:57 (EDT)

It was the White Eagle when I walked the beat down there Shirley. And the building is still there but it is now a Church.
Ray Jubb <golfopera@aol.com>
Wil. , De USA - Thursday, April 07, 2005 at 20:27:24 (EDT)

First of all, the photo I posted asking the question about the tower - forget it!___The more I remember about the Clayten/Rodney Street tower, it was erected straight up.___It was steel and painted dark green.___Now, go to Special Park photos to see additional photos of the top of this park.___I think we can see what Ralph is talking about.___The photos are 'super-large', so enjoy...
webmaster <webmaster@oldwilmington.net>
Perryville, MD USA - Thursday, April 07, 2005 at 18:33:47 (EDT)

I remeber a little bar on the corner of E. 4th Street and Pine...it was later called the White Eagle.....don't know what is there now. My grandmother used to send us to get my grandfather when it was time for dinner. He'd call my sister and I inside, stand us up on a table, and give us a quarter to sing "Jesus Loves Me". What memories!
Shirley Hudson Jester <ujest110@aol.com>
Newark, DE USA - Thursday, April 07, 2005 at 17:46:26 (EDT)

IN REGARDS TO THE RODNEY ST ,----CLAYTON ST. RESERVOIR, TO ANY ONE WHO HAS WALKED THE AREA AROUND THE TOWER, . DID YOU EVER NOTICE THAT THERE WAS A SLIGHT DROP .YOU COULD WALK AROUND THAT AREA ALL THE WAY TO WEST 8TH. . ALSO THERE WERE PIPES YOU COULD OBSERVE STICKING OUT OF THE CONCREAT ON THE TOWER SIDE .. ----TO GET RIGHT TO THE POINT , FROM ABOUT 1885 TO ABOUT 1925 THAT AREA WAS A ICE SKATEING RINK. ! THE OLD TIMERS ON CLAYTON ST. USE TO TELL ME ABOUT IT. . SO AS A BOY OF ABOUT 12 YRS. OLD I CHECKED IT OUT, AND SURE ENOUGH WHAT I JUST TOLD YOU MADE SENCE, I WAS LOOKING AT WHAT WAS ONCE A ICE SKATING RINK. WHY THEY EVER DID AWAY WITH IT ,I CANT UNDERSTAND.. BUT JUST THOUGHT YOU HARRY AND THE WILM.NET CROWD WOULD LIKE TO KNOW .
0RALPH PRYOR <REPJFK@AOL.COM>
TARPON SPRINGS, FL. USA - Thursday, April 07, 2005 at 16:48:06 (EDT)

I recall taverns in the 1950s that had a "Ladies Entrance." While their men sat at the bar drinking and smoking, wives would sit at tables in an adjoining rooom. They would sit alone and upright. They wore long cloth coats with one large button at the collar. A small glass of cola would sit before them unattended. They stared into nothingness. It was a domestic version of the thousand yard stare.
Larry Roszkowiak (Rush) <lroszkowiak@its.ucsf.edu>
San Francisco, CA USA - Thursday, April 07, 2005 at 15:09:06 (EDT)

Re:Private Clubs : This brings back memories of my childhood. Back in the late 40's or early 50's.there was a similiar place,a private home along the Brandywine,next to Hagee's Tavern.This was owned by a woman.who sold alcoholic beverages on Sunday's. On one occasion a male customers,having had a little too much to drink, started throwing pockes full of change to my friends and I,much to our delight.Although it was only small change,it was a windfall to us at that time.
K .BURTON <breckslnkid10@oldwilmington.net>
Pike Creek, De USA - Thursday, April 07, 2005 at 10:25:01 (EDT)

CAROL: As kids we'd often be sent to, "Knock the bar door, an ask for your Father! Tell him I said to come home!". Frequently, we could just peek in the window and a bartender would see us and signal to our parent. Everyone knew everyone else's business back then.
Jo Ann <crossan33@aol.com>
Pike Creek Valley, DE USA - Thursday, April 07, 2005 at 10:19:50 (EDT)

Does anyone remember the Greengate Cafe on a very little street off 8th between Scott and DuPont? Sundays when the family gathered at my grand-parent's house at 8th & Scott, the men in the family would always disappear up the Greengate. For some reason it was open on Sundays so maybe it was one of those "private" clubs. I also remember another popular Beer Garden where just men gathered on Ford Avenue near the Coca Cola plant. Both of these places were off limits. If there was some pressing family matter, you just had to wait until your father, uncle, etc. came home on his own time.
Carol Merlini <caroljane.merlini@aliceposta.it>
Pescara, Abruzzo Italy - Thursday, April 07, 2005 at 08:29:23 (EDT)

Bruce, I can save you the trip - from the 'Drop Down' above, select 'Photos: New Century, Page 2'.___There, you will see some recent photos of the park.___And, I think I can say - the photo is NOT the tower that was there.___As soon as I saw the photo in one of the five albums I just received fron my sister, I thought of that tower.___I will continue to find a photo of that Tower.___One more thing: The fence goes all the way around the park 'at street level' and all of the gates are locked.
webmaster <webmaster@oldwilmington.net>
Perryville, MD USA - Wednesday, April 06, 2005 at 22:41:10 (EDT)

Ralph, I'm not sure that they put the fence around the whole park, I know they took the tower down, but all of the drug activity and etc. was going on at the top of the hill, and I think they just fenced the top off (again, I'm probably wrong, but that's my guess). I do think the bottom area of the hill is still open land. If no one else sets me straight before then, I'll be riding by there Friday, and will report on what I see.
Bruce <spyderxlatcomcast.net>
Wilmington, DE USA - Wednesday, April 06, 2005 at 21:37:36 (EDT)

Ralph, I think they should have saved the taxpayers money by not putting up a fence, and instead drowned the dope pushers and wierdos in the resevior. Once the resevior was full they could bury them alive outside the Smyrna Prison with a microphone in the casket and pipe the sound into the prisoners in their cells. Make sure the volume is way up like they like it on their cars. After listening to a few of the tough guys croak we'd see how many would come out and commit crimes again!
Wayne <twntydasys@aol.com>
New Castle, DE USA - Wednesday, April 06, 2005 at 19:53:59 (EDT)

I'm not even begining to infer in any way that the tower in the picture is the same one, but it REMINDS ME of the one down around the Symrna rest stop. I belive it was also a fire watch tower of some sorts. Strictly a guess, but I'd say it was most likely there to watch over Blackbird Forest. I only saw the tower on my way to the beach a couple of times a year, so like I said it's a two cent guess. Maybe though, that would jog some memories better aquainted with towers in that area than mine, and someone will recogonize it.
Wayne <twntydasys@aol.com>
New Castle, DE USA - Wednesday, April 06, 2005 at 19:42:02 (EDT)

IN REGARDS TO THE RODNEY ST. RESERVOIR. I LVED RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM 9TH. CLAYTON . ---BY THE WAY , WE USE TO CALL IT THE CLAYTON ST. RESERVOIR ! BUT ANY WAY, IT HAD AT LEAST A TWO STORY TOWER. ----MAY BE THREE. BECAUSE YOU COULD SEE MARKET ST. FROM THE TOP SECTION. DURING THE COLD WAR WITH RUSSIA . THE C,D HAD MEMBERS SPOTTING FOR FOREIGN PLANS. I CAN REMEMBER MANY EASTER SUNDAYS AS A YOUNG BOY WALKING THE BANKS AND THE TOWER . AND MY OLDER SISTERS TAKING MY PICTURE. . I STILL REMEMBER ONE OF THE PARK GUARDS NAME, IT WAS PRESTON (PRESS) KENEDDY. . NOW THE GOOD PEOPLE OF WILMINGTON CANT ENJOY THE RESERVOIR . THE TOWER I HEAR HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN . AND A VERY HIGH FENCE WAS ERECTED AROUND THE WHOLE PARK. IT SEEM,S THAT DOPE PUSHERS . AND PERVERTS HAD TAKEN THE RESERVOIR OVER. SO THE LEADERS OF THE FAIR CITY OF WILM. PUT UP A HIGH FENCE. . ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE THE BERLIN WALL !. I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO PUT UNDER COVER POLICE IN THE AREA, LOCK UP THE DOPE HEADS AND PERVERTS ,------- AND LEAVE THE DAMM FENCE DOWN !
RALPH PRYOR <REPJFK>
TARPON SPRINGS , FL USA - Wednesday, April 06, 2005 at 19:24:57 (EDT)

Remember Dolly's Beauty Salon 4th & Market Sts. Next door to Dr. Weinstock and across the street from the great "Wilmington Dry Goods"
Honey Catalina <d2hon@aol.com>
Newark, DE USA - Wednesday, April 06, 2005 at 18:23:07 (EDT)Joseph, I remember a Hayden's beer garden in the 30's, 40's, 50's, etc. that was located between 28th and 29th on the west side of Market St. My parents, aunts, and uncles used to go there for a cold one occasionally. I don't remember their ever mentioning entertainment. It was just a quiet neighborhood place. I remember Mrs. Hayden lived on Tatnall St. between 20th and Concord Ave.
Pat LeVan <LeVan1706@aol.com>
Port St. Lucie, FL USA - Wednesday, April 06, 2005 at 08:03:41 (EDT)

Thanks, Tom and Bill, for the school info. I should have checked the "schools" page, as Tom suggested (duh). I think Patsy's is the name I remember on that store. Thanks again.
Bruce <spyderxlatcomcast.net>
Wilmington, DE USA - Tuesday, April 05, 2005 at 19:39:00 (EDT)

Any info on "Haydens" a club at 25th & Market in the 1920's 1930's. Used to host Blues singers,"MOSE" a fast footer and singer from harlem, Rose Hyson and a Ray Fisher and his orchestra?
Joseph Murray <jtmurray447@msn.com>
Hockessin, DE USA - Tuesday, April 05, 2005 at 18:37:46 (EDT)

Bruce, the little luncheonette across from #30 (Evan G. Shortlidge School) was known as "Patsy's" when I went there. It subsequently became "Toner's", but don't ask me exactly when...! It was sometime during or after 1947, but I don't recall the exact time in history...
Bill Fisher <whfisher@earthlink.net>
Westminster, CA USA - Tuesday, April 05, 2005 at 17:15:21 (EDT)

Bruce - according to Harry's page of school photos, Public School #30 was at Concord Ave. and Baynard Blvd.
Tom Wood <twood@hoflink.com>
Albertson, NY USA - Tuesday, April 05, 2005 at 15:38:58 (EDT)

I've got a question, also: what school was at the triangle formed by: Concord Ave., Van Buren St., and Baynard Blvd.? My oldest brother went there, but I can't remember what the number was (it was a number school). Also, the little corner store on Concord Ave. at Van Buren, across from the school?
Bruce <spyderxlatcomcast.net>
Wilmington, DE USA - Tuesday, April 05, 2005 at 15:16:03 (EDT)

DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THE CANDY STORE AT 1917 W.6TH.ST. OWNED BY MRS CASERTS ( PRE WAR )ALSO WHEN B. RITTERS FURN. STORE WAS AT 6TH & LINCOLN ST.
JPASQUALE <JNPASQUALE@COMCAST.NET>
WILMINGTON, DE USA - Tuesday, April 05, 2005 at 14:31:36 (EDT)

Thanks, Bubbles and Bill...___The problems that are created when a 5-letter command is placed in the wrong line!!___Yes, this is idle talk and will be removed...
webmaster <webmaster@oldwilmington.net>
Perryville, MD USA - Tuesday, April 05, 2005 at 09:03:29 (EDT)

There's a very interesting history of the Yo-Yo at: http://www.nationalyoyo.org/museum/youcanyo-yo.htm (just copy the URL and paste in the address box of your browser) All my friends and I had yo-yos back in the mid/late 30's when the Filipino yo-yo professionals, employed by Duncan, were demonstrating their skills all over the country. We would wax the loop at the bottom of the special yo-yo strings so the yo-yo would "sleep" for a longer time. Someimes we overdid it and they wouldn't return at all.
Tom Wood <twood@hoflink.com>
Albertson, NY USA - Friday, April 01, 2005 at 15:30:28 (EST)

Patty, I am an older adult but I still teach my Grandchildren how to make rings out of them. My youngest grand daughter told me "Pop Pop that's gross". Do we ever grow up.
Chuck <bigbass@udel.edu>
Bear, DE USA - Friday, April 01, 2005 at 14:09:32 (EST)

LOL - I'm glad somebody else admits to making rings out of lightning bugs - it seems so cruel now that we are adults. We also would collect them in a jar, poke air holes in the lid, and put them in our room (dark) when we went to bed. I met a couple who moved here from Scotland...they said they were out one night & were a pretty alarmed when they saw the lightning bugs - they don't have them in Scotland.
Patty <pattywerk@aol.com>
Wilmington, DE USA - Friday, April 01, 2005 at 13:42:33 (EST)

Yes, Wilmington still has firefies (lighting bugs) on summer nights. In a typical summer we will start seening them in early to mid June. As kids I remember making rings from the lighting portion.
John <jhaug@udel.edu>
Wilmington, DE USA - Friday, April 01, 2005 at 13:17:33 (EST)

Does Wilmington still have fireflies on summer evenings?
Larry Roszkowiak (Rush) <lroszkowiak@its.ucsf.edu>
San Francisco, CA USA - Friday, April 01, 2005 at 12:48:10 (EST)

Bill, how about, "Around the World", "Loop to Loop", "Rock the Cradle", or the one that would always give you a black eye when it went wrong. "Eatin Spaghetti".
Chuck <bigbass@udel.edu>
Bear, DE USA - Friday, April 01, 2005 at 07:52:53 (EST)

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